The Body Keeps the Score Bessel Van Der Kolk Book Review Mind And Body In The Healing Of Trauma
Hi there, it’s Marcus and welcome to TalkSober.com!
Today we’re probably going to break a record as the longest book review in all of history but I wanted to go through this book with you because I think it’s very important to understand trauma and mental illness and PTSD and everything like that in the realm of addiction because so much of this stuff is what I see people with addiction and alcoholism struggling with mostly.
This book we’re going through today is called
THE BODY KEEPS THE SCORE BRAIN,
MIND AND BODY IN THE HEALING OF TRAUMA
BY VESSEL VAN DER KOLK, MD.
This book talks a lot about TRAUMA which is something that I went through. A lot of people are talking about alcoholics and alcohol is the only problem and that’s the only deal and everything like that but for a lot of people it comes a lot deeper or goes a lot deeper I should say. When you’re facing trauma and looking at all the things that are going on in a person’s life, often times you hear people say that they don’t feel comfortable in their own skin; they don’t feel comfortable in their own body.
What we want to do is want to talk about this and we want to go through these things to help you because the goal is to help you be an integrated person so you feel comfortable in your own skin, you don’t have to drink anymore and the negative thoughts and everything just start to dissipate and we’re going to go through that.
So I want to take you through some of the things that he says in this book that go through and really helped and really spoke to me in terms of my trauma because I didn’t have it as bad as some people but I had it worse than others, I had a traumatic past, I had things go on and a lot of things happen I also had a brain injury when I was very young which probably explains a lot, I don’t know if it’s a brain injury or head injury, but it was something that a lot of people said it probably affected the way that I thought and everything like that. It was very difficult to go through and I went to the depths of my alcohol and my depression and feeling unwanted feeling, uncomfortable in my own skin and all these things just started to add up and I became suicidal and everything just went crazy and I was struggling with myself to understand what happened to me where it fit in my world, how to deal with it how to move past it and everything like this. I guess as I was drinking and trying to cope with the stuff I struggled with trying to fill in memory gaps and things like that.
This book I highly recommend it to everyone. It’s a very good book everyone should read it if they’re interested in this stuff or dealing with this stuff because it really really talks about this from a neuroscience perspective.
This guy went through and he talked to Vietnam veterans. He talked to people who were abused. He talked to people who were in and out of foster care and you know victims of rape and victims of violence and all kinds of things and how the body and how the mind stores this stuff and how it affects us later on.
Now he goes on in page 18. He says they felt fully alive only when they were revisiting their traumatic past. Now in this part he was talking about these veterans who have dealt with lots of things and this is not something that I’m perfectly familiar with because I don’t know a lot of veterans who went through this stuff but I know the trauma can be crazy and I know that trauma is not something anyone wants to deal with regardless of how you get it.
He was talking about how these veterans would go through their life and they were struggling with things and they were feeling just craziness you know they were like dead inside and suicidal and oftentimes very very difficult to get along in daily life but he noticed that when these people would go in a group and talk about their trauma amongst each other, they felt alive when they were revisiting that. So interesting point. We want to put that you know in a notecard in their brain for later because it’s very important to look at that okay.
These people had trauma and a lot of times like alcohol. Alcohol and drugs they go and meet in groups and oftentimes a lot of these groups are nothing more than glorifying their old past alcohol or how bad it was or whatever and they feel alive talking about this but they don’t feel alive in the present.
We want to talk about how this affects us and how this makes us unable to cope with daily life and things like that.
He goes on here to talk about PTSD and things like that and he says they may deflect attention from dealing with the underlying issues. A lot of times talking about our trauma and things like that is deflecting from what’s actually going on in our mind and actually going on.
He says this is where it gets into the good part, he says well the left half of the brain does the talking the right half of the brain carries the muscle or the music of experience. It communicates through facial expressions and body language and by making the sounds of love and sorrow by singing and swearing and crying or dancing and mimicking. So it talks about the difference between the different halves of the brain and how they go through and how they work together.
He says oftentimes these parts of your brain they react automatically. So while we’re going through life we might say well what is wrong with me, what is the problem and for me it was like okay what’s wrong with me I can’t do these things, I get anxious I have these struggles, what’s wrong with me. It wasn’t what’s wrong with me, it was what’s wrong with the way that my brain was programmed and it’s reacting automatically to these things and even just knowing that the stuffs happening doesn’t cure it as we’re going to find out and he says when something reminds traumatized people of the past, the right brain reacts as if the traumatic event were happening in the present. So it’s like it’s happening right now but because their left brain is not working very well they might not be aware that they are reoccurring and re-enacting the past. They’re just angry.
It’s like we said well what’s going what’s wrong with me, what’s going on right now, we don’t know what’s going on!
They’re Furious, terrified, enrage, ashamed or frozen. After the emotional storm passes they may look for something or somebody to blame for it. They behave the way they did because you were ten minutes later because you burned the potatoes or because you never listen to me. Of course most of us have done this from time to time but when we cool down we hopefully can admit our mistake.
Trauma however interferes with this kind of awareness and over time a research demonstrated wine.
It goes on to talk about the research he did which is very good and he says, the insidious effects of constantly elevated stress hormones which often happens in traumatic trauma patients and things like that include memory and attention problems, irritability and sleep disorders and he talked about how all this stuff goes on and you might be able to cope or you might not be able to cope and how the body continues to keep the score. Your body’s keeping the score. It’s really harnessing this stuff and keeping it in certain areas and sometimes that leads to disease, disorder, pain things like that. A lot of the stuff he looked at you know with people of that had dealt with car accidents they had back pain and no doctor could explain why and he’s like okay well it’s because your body is keeping the score. It’s keeping the pain there it’s keeping it locked in time and what trauma is, is memories trapped in time. They can’t get out and they’re there because they’re not being addressed and he says because the amygdala processes the information it receives from the thalamus faster than the frontal lobes- so the frontal lobes are like where you sit there moping what do we think about this, and the other stuff is like automatically happening and it’s processing faster than the frontal lobes- you’re conscious you know thought and it decides whether incoming information is a threat to our survival even before we’re consciously aware of the danger.
So it’s as if you’re sitting there and your mind thinks everything is like this tiger that’s ready to eat you up but your conscious brain isn’t sitting there saying wow I see a tiger there!
Your subconscious brain is just seeing that stuff out there and processing it as a fear producing adrenaline, producing fear and by the time we realize what’s happening.
Our body is already on the move so like with anxiety right before we even think about it even if we know why we’re anxious it doesn’t matter because your brain is just processing this so fast that you don’t have time to sit and think of what’s going on!
This is because of the stress hormones that your mind produces in your body including cortisol and adrenaline and adrenaline is a very very dangerous poison if you use too many times. It’s like a toxin right. He says on page 62, being able to hover calmly and objectively over our thoughts, feelings, and emotion and ability I’ll call mindfulness throughout this book and then take our time to respond allows the executive brain to inhibit, organize and modulate the hard-wired automatic reactions pre-programmed into the emotional brain.
So being able to intercept that and understand what’s going on first and second being able to calm down these things.
Being able to relax. It’s like if you’re out on the run and you’re afraid, you are going to have a much harder time calming down the way you feel than if you’re in bed and you’re thinking about a spider or you’re thinking about a traumatic event or whatever right, you relax. So it’s the state in which we feel these things that oftentimes determines the outcome.
He says however neuroscience research he says psychologists usually try to help people use insight and understanding to manage their behavior. So the behavior, alcoholism hitting whatever it is, is what they’re trying to manage.
However, neuroscience research shows that very few psychological problems are the result of defects in understanding. This is extremely important because so many self-help books, so many things out there are focusing on do you have a defective understanding.
Are you depressed because you don’t understand something?
Are you anxious because you don’t understand something?
Is more knowledge going to help you? The answer is no.
The answer is going through and reversing this in learning how our brain works is only a tip of the iceberg when it comes to dealing with the feelings.
Oftentimes it’s a lot more because most of this originates in pressures from deeper regions in the brain that drive our perception and attention. It’s almost as if you have been hijacked. Your brain has been hijacked by trauma and by anxiety and by these things that are causing you to not be able to function and live a normal life and integrate into your body and feel like you are whole and complete.
Page 67, not being able to be fully alive in the present keeps them more firmly in prison in the past. Now this is a theme he talks about which is not being able to be fully alive and then now.
I remember when I was starting to get sober and dealing with all these things or trying to, I had a guy try to teach me mindfulness. For me it was a concept I just didn’t get. I’m like what do you just sit there and not think about stuff. What am I gonna do, sit there and not think about not thinking about not thinking about not thinking? And it was just crazy and then people like Eckhart Tolle would talk about stuff and it’s good stuff but it drove me nuts because it didn’t get at the core of what was going on which was something deeper happening.
I couldn’t just sit there and relax because my part my brain was programmed to be on alert!
He says on page 67, intense and barely controllable urges and emotions make people feel crazy and I felt like I was going crazy and the alcohol compounded it and he says it makes them feel like they don’t belong in the human race or to the human race.
It feels like we don’t belong it’s like, “Who am I?” “Where am I?”, “What’s wrong with me?” and oftentimes we’re putting the attention on ourselves because that’s what we’ve been trained to do. He says as a result shame becomes the dominant emotion and hiding the truth the central preoccupation.
He says on page 69, yes you need to detect whether somebody is getting upset with you but if your amygdala goes into overdrive you may become chronically scared that people hate you or you may feel like they’re out to get you.
How often do you see people who feel like people hate them and you know they shrug it off but the people that are traumatized are scared that everyone’s like this. They’re scared that they don’t belong in that something bad is going to happen and he says trauma is the ultimate experience of this will last forever. Visiting the past in therapy should be done well people are biologically speaking firmly rooted in the present and there’s this theme of not being in the present not being able to live in the now because their memories are trapped in time their trauma is trapped in time and they’re feeling all the feelings they felt and thinking all the things they thought rather than going through life on a day-to-day basis.
He says the therapy won’t work as long as people getting pulled, keep Finnigan pulled. Try that again. Therapy won’t work as long as people keep being pulled back into the past.
Are you plagued by your past? I’ve read multiple books about getting past your past dealing with these things. Nothing seemed to work.
He says if they can’t shut down naturally, meaning shut down chill mindful whatever you want to call it, they may enlist drugs alcohol to block out the world. You look at so many people who struggle with addiction and so many of them have trauma, PTSD, depression, checkered past memories. They can’t get past and he says we must of all help our patients to live fully and securely in the present.
A lot of therapy and a lot of things, they don’t talk about the real goal.
They don’t talk about like how are we going to know when we’re better. How we know it is a bell going to go off? Are we just going to feel better what’s going to go on?
And the goal here is defined on page 73, we must most of all help our patients to live fully and securely in the present. How can you live fully and securely in the present?
It talks about the history of ho this stuff came to be the history of how it works and he says the standard medical focus on trying to discover the right drug to treat a particular disorder tends to distract us from grappling with how our problems interfere with our functioning as members of a tribe.
So here we have this idea and medicine has it has gone on and psychiatry has gone on to a chemical based model okay you got anxiety let’s chemically shut it down. That’s why they call alcohol self-medicating. You’re using your own medicine because you’re not a PhD or whatever and alcohol is hardly a medicine it’s more of a poison but you’re using this to treat the symptom rather than like focusing on being a member of the human race and understanding the human condition and understanding what’s really going on and dealing with the underlying issues.
He says in page number 91 that understanding the source of the impulse made no difference in helping or control it.
So here’s this lady dealing with all these things and all these impulses and all this stuff and understanding it right there’s revelation of boom here’s where it came from digs do jack to help her with it. All those people telling you that the root is just understanding where it came from and getting in touch with that is really not what’s going on here it’s deeper and PTSD people with PTSD often have trouble putting the picture together. They’re not able to put this whole picture together. They’re having these things go on and he says sometimes we use our minds not to discover facts but to hide them. Sometimes they’re buying hides facts for fear of what’s going to happen or protecting ourselves or whatever.
That’s where this comes from.
Your mind is trying to protect itself because that’s what it learned right they learn to hide from themselves.
Traumatized people chronically feel unsafe inside their own bodies like they don’t feel safe. They can fill up a sense of fear a fear of fear itself and panic self-regulation depends on having a friendly receipt relationship with your body and most of us don’t have that.
He says without it you have to rely on external regulation from medication like in drugs like alcohol, constant reassurance or compulsive compliance with the wishes of others. This is seen in people who are known as what’s called codependent.
He says on page 110, we could only conclude that for abused children the whole world is filled with triggers.
This breaks your heart and my heart because here’s these children going through life and because of abuse the world is filled with triggers!
How many times do you feel like the whole world is your trigger? No matter what you can’t get away from a trigger that takes you back to where you don’t want to go. That makes the feelings back what you don’t want to feel. The thoughts what you don’t want to think. The sad part is that when kids have this right they go through life and everything is a trigger then it’s coming adults and everything is a trigger and life is a trigger. They have an unstable sense of self, a self-damaging impulsivity including excessive spending, promiscuous sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating, appropriate and intense anger and recurrent suicidal behavior.
The key here is to go to someone who understands this, see someone who can help you with it and he talks about disassociation which I was diagnosed with that DID and he says this association means simultaneously knowing and not knowing. It’s the ability of your brain to break off and put a segment that’s going to protect you and keep the rest completely unaware of it and he goes on to talk about this very interesting.
He says that oftentimes people with trauma have a unique view of how the world functions. They have their own unique view. They don’t look at it like the rest of us which in some parts can be a great way of viewing the world but in some times it’s not. I found that when I was down that slope of depression anxiety and struggle and alcoholism, my worldview was not good but now it’s kind of unique in a cool way right so we have that to share with people which is that’s like the upside of the coin.
Maybe you have something to share and he says that one of the keys was helping them reconstruct their inner map of the world and that generally the rational brain can override the emotional brain as long as our fears don’t hijack it!
So what’s going on is fears or hijacking it protection mechanism is kicking in the fire alarm is going on even though there’s no fire. What’s happening is you’re activating old maps of your behavior because these memories are fragmented, trauma took it and put it all over your brain because it couldn’t deal with it at one specific thing and what’s at one specific time in one box.
What’s happening because it’s not in this box your mind is using everything saying it’s still happening but what needs to happen is we need to process this and say this is what happened back then I am living now. This is what was, this is what is and in trauma patients he goes on to talk about how that doesn’t always happen.
He says on page 149, sometimes if we mistake someone’s solution for a problem for me alcohol was a solution for some people there’s a solution that might be self-harmful but it’s the only solution they know to deal with this and if you don’t deal with it other problems are going to emerge.
He says the challenge here okay this is back to the gold stuff. The challenge is to find ways to help them lead productive lives right how can you lead a productive life without this stuff coming up.
He says on page 167 if you pay attention only to faulty biology and defective genes as the cause of mental problems, so you’re saying hey if you get like faulty biology, you look at a chemical stuff, you look at the surface level stuff right like it’s kind of like treating cancer as just the cancer rather than treating what caused it in the first place. Treating depression as just the depression Oh take this pill without dealing with the underlying cause. The underlying cause is always going to be there in the body he’s going to keep the score and that’s what this is about and that’s why you’re probably watching a video like this.
He says if you only pay attention to that and you ignore abandonment, abuse, deprivation you are likely to run into as many dead ends as previous generations did blaming it all on terrible mothers.
Another thing he says in program in page 169 is that the mind has been programmed by life itself.
Life has programmed you to be the way you are.
Forgive yourself say you know what these things aren’t bad they were good things that my mind came up with to protect myself but they’re no longer needed now because that was then and this is now.
He talks about how things like EMDR and desensitization or different things like that will help you with it. EMDR is a good one and also you know reconstructing these memories of the past and putting them in their place.
He also says that culture shapes the expression of traumatic stress.
Our traumatic stress is formed by culture as well. He says in page 173 this talks about dealing with the memories as long as a memory is inaccessible right a lot of times the disassociation splits that memory offenses here it is here and we’re not going to think about it but in our brain we’re going to be afraid of all the stuff as if we’re thinking about it and that’s what happens here. As long as the memory is inaccessible so as long as you can’t get to it the mind is unable to change it. The memory is such an interesting thing because often times it’s not concrete and it changes and when you recall something it’s not exactly how it was and it’s always your perception is how it was. This is not to negate or say something doesn’t mean what it means or wasn’t what it was it’s just to say that sometimes our memory is not always the solid thing.
He says but as soon as the story starts being told particularly if it’s told repeatedly it changes. The act of telling itself changes the tale.
He goes on to say in page 200 but I no longer see or yeah but I no longer think that I need to know everything in order to understand what happened. This is something that I dealt was so difficult. I thought that in my trauma I had to know every second of every detail of everything that went on in order to understand what happened.
It was very difficult because sometimes those memories are gone and distorted and the people who did them may not be accessible anymore or around anymore and here I am left with the pieces and I’m trying to put them together which is pretty much making me insane and sometimes we don’t need to do that sometimes knowing every little detail is not the process of healing. Sometimes the process of healing is just putting it in a box, putting it as the past thing, this is something that was, this is what is now.
He says however trauma is much more than a story about something that happened long ago.
It’s much more than that. Understanding why you feel a certain way does not change how you feel. He goes on to say this means that we can directly train our arousal system by the way we breathe chant and move a principle that has been utilized since the time immemorial and places like China and India and in every religious practice I know of but it’s suspiciously I to the alternative to the mainstream culture.
Now while a lot of people are saying medicines the way talks therapies the way which they do help thanks very good but he’s saying that learning how to breathe calmly and remaining in a state of relative physical relaxation even while accessing painful and horrifying memories and it is an essential tool for recovery.
So we’re going to put that in we’re going to say okay learning how to deal with this stuff in a safe environment, knowing that there’s no threat there, being able to feel what I need to feel, think what I need to say and have what I need to have in accessing this is what’s going to help.
He says a lot of mindfulness is really good but not in a way of mindfulness like oh you know just sit and sing Kumbaya but in getting touch with your body understanding what’s going on and he says yet avoiding feeling these sensations in our body increases our vulnerability to being overwhelmed by them. Very good quote talking about you know hey not feeling these is going to be overwhelming and that’s kind of what I look at what happened in my life you know I went through life at some point I stopped thinking about this stuff and I started thinking about like business and things like that and I put this stuff on the back burner but my body was keeping score and these things were building and building and building and unfortunately when I started to deal with them there was no real help that I had set in place and I wasn’t able to deal with them in a safe environment.
Putting the traumatic event in its proper place in the overall arc of one’s life. This is integration and that’s what he talks about as the cure to this is integrating it.
He says blocking adrenalin can help to keep the rational brain on line and make choices possible. Is this really what I want to do saying that you know a lot of times we’re hijacked and a lot of times we look at this and we need to integrate into what was and what is and how we are now.
Lack of this overreaching meaning encourages making things up like now this is talking again about memory right lack of like memory and the need to have all the pieces in place encourages us to make things up and lie and not understand things and whatever because we don’t we don’t know but the key here is accepting what we don’t know is what we don’t know sometimes we don’t know and sometimes we need to be okay with it.
He says that neuroscience research has shown that we possess two distinct forms of self-awareness:
- one that keeps track of itself across time,
- and one that registers the self in the present moment.
This system is rooted in language and it’s primarily based in physical sensations but if we feel safe and are not rushed we can find words to communicate.
He says that in trauma this doesn’t happen right there’s no distinction between life what was, life what is, we’re trapped and if you feel trapped I understand how you feel. It’s very very difficult to feel this way and to understand this and this is what’s going on and I believe that understanding this will help. Finding a responsive community in which to your truth makes recovery possible. Talking to others about it understanding and being understood and you know getting that metaphorical hug of someone else saying it’s going to be okay and this stuff’s not going on anymore.
He says page 249 generating the sense of being embody, the sense of actually owning yourself because a lot of trauma people then distant disassociated from their own person. They’re back in the trauma. These powerful feelings are generated deep with inside the brain and cannot be eliminated by reason or understanding.
You see these people traumatize the people like us. We don’t just feel on edge and I made unable to focus right that’s part of it. We have in a sense of imminent doom I think I said that right right the feeling that everything is going to crash at any given moment.
Inability to to put things in their proper place it’s like you get fired from your job and you think life is over right instead of just feeling okay well you know there’s another job there as a healthy person mentally would feel and he says that were trapped in frozen associations.
He goes on in Chapter 16 page 266 to say the body is being hijacked into uncontrollable anxiety.
Your body and mind have been hijacked and these things are in your mind and these things are unable to deal with because you don’t know where they’re coming from and the key is to integrate back into our body we’re going to talk about this in other videos as well if you like this stuff even though my videos super long today subscribe you know we’re doing these to help you out so that hopefully you can have a better a better experience of getting past your trauma than I did and understand what works.
As long as we maintain, as long as we manage to stay calm we can choose how we respond, the key there is staying calm and you know forcefully making yourself regulate and understanding these things, understanding that you can become and these things will be okay.
In trauma the self-system breaks down and parts of the self, become polarized and go to war with each other this is why we have the feeling of hating ourselves and stuff like that. Beneath the surface of the protective parts of the trauma survivors I’ll say that again beneath the surface of the protective parts of trauma, survivors there exists an undamaged essence a self that is confident curious and calm inside of all of us.
No matter how bad our trauma is, there is that person that self that is curious and calm and confident.
A self that is in shelf sheltered from destruction by the various protectors that have emerged in their efforts to ensure survival.
That was a mouthful but what it’s saying is that along the way this good portion of yourself that part you know that is used somewhere right because we define ourselves as a you and it’s only one you it’s like this is the me. He’s going on to say well in trauma patients sometimes there’s the you that’s like this, you that’s like this, you that is angry, with you that’s happy, the you that’s miserable, the you that’s curious.
And we look at that we say well that’s still there like that playful kid that once was is still there and getting in touch with it and embodying that is the first step to getting better.
He says that in India I can’t talk as in EMDR the resolution of trauma was the result of her ability to access her imagination and rework the scenes in which she had become frozen so long ago. So a lot of its this reworking of the memory that’s embodying the person that was there before the memory.
He says although the structures involved dialogue psychomotor therapy does not explain or interpret the past instead it allows you to feel what you felt back then important visualize what you saw and then say what you could not say when it actually happened.
He’s talking about like acting out which was kind of interesting that’s why you got to read this book is really good specifically they did not generate the brain pattern way that helps people pay attention. So on trauma victims and people that have dealt with this stuff they are unable to pay attention because these parts of the brain are not online. These parts are not organized to pay careful attention to what’s going on in the present moment.
Traumatic stress is an illness of not being able to be fully alive in the present. This was a quote by Pierre Jeannette back in the 1800s and it is Insightful. He’s like okay it’s an illness of not being able to be fully alive in the present because they’re so stuck in the past.
Between 75 and 80 percent of patients who are admitted for detox and alcohol and drug abuse will relapse. This is in my mind, this can’t be we need to do better right we need to come up with something that is better. We don’t need to relapse into past stuff whether it’s alcohol or addiction or trauma or whatever and he says that traumatized people feel terrified. Traumatized people are terrified to feel deeply.
Are you afraid to feel? I was afraid to feel for years. I didn’t want to feel because I was afraid to experience my emotions because emotions led to loss of control.
I think came into this time where I said you know screw feelings. Feelings are overrated. Let’s not feel. There’s books about this topic I don’t think they’re recommended just because of the name of the books for trauma patients because sometimes that’s not what we want to do.
He says on page 353, as the AC II study has shown child abuse and neglect is the single most preventable cause of mental illness, the single most common cause of drug and alcohol abuse and a significant contributor to leading cause of death which stuff as diabetes heart disease cancer stroke and suicide.
Guys this is serious that’s why I want to bring you this book because it’s like okay this is what’s causing these things.
This hands down is where the traumas coming from this hands down is where most addiction is coming from is these memories lost in time this trauma the stuff that’s going on and we need to treat the trauma rather than the symptoms because the symptoms obviously some people think the symptoms can be helped with you know drugs and alcohol and things like that but the fact of the matter is we need to treat what’s really going on and we need to feel alive in the present moment we need to learn to put the memory and the trauma in the past and understand where it’s at.
The cool thing about this book is he talks about the body keeping score and the bad ways that it happens but he also talks about neuroplasticity in the good ways because all the stuff that has been done can be healed.
You can start to heal.
You can start to feel better and these things can start to change for you.
I hope you like this book review wasn’t as long as I thought it was going to be.
I think there’s one last quote I wanted to go through here now that was let’s see maybe there is one last one yes he says very important one he says “being able to feel safe with other people defines mental health”.
Are you able to feel safe, chances are if you have anxiety if you have these thoughts if you have this stuff going on you don’t feel safe and feeling safe first in yourself in your own body is the first step to getting better and second feeling safe with others is another step and often times these can happen at the same time.
I want you to understand that there’s nothing wrong with you,
it’s just something that happened.
It’s just the way your program was or your brain was programmed by life and the way that you learn to cope and I think it’s pretty cool that your mind and your body did this and it’s time to put that back in the past and say thank you thanks for that!
I don’t need some of that stuff here but I can start to heal and I can start to get better.
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